Thank you for your help.
Katie
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Katiebunny2281 |
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What does it mean when you see people out of the corners of your eyes and your hear people say stuff also? Am I nuts or am I just seeing ghosts?
Thank you for your help. Katie |
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OH MY!! Welcome to MY world...lol
You are NOT crazy!! I hear someone calling me ALL the time....but no one really is! And the shadows out the corners of your eyes...yep..lil sopirits running from view. If you have any questions about this...just ask away!! There are a few here that have the same things happening to them! |
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I saw a woman the other day. I've never really felt a presence in this house but I was stepping out of the shower and had left the bathroom door open. I
looked up and there she was. She didn't dodge out of my view either.....I SAW her.....she just vanished. I couldn't tell you what she even looked like
but I did see her. It was very odd.
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mysticmerlyn1212 |
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Katiebunny2281,
Welcome to ShadowLands... Ok. you asked.. What does it mean when you see people out of the corners of It is really hard to know what to say at this point.. Before, I usually look into any specific problem or occurance, I always like to first look at the logical and than go from there to the possible paranormal explanation. No I do not think you are nuts but it does creep out many and freak some out too if they have never seen one and than a person sees one and than another and pretty soon you are the energizer shadow seeker.. Well that is what happened to me at least.. A clairaudio is intuitively hearing that which is not audio. So.. I have to ask some questions Ok? 1. Do you have any medical conditions affecting your ears or eyes? Diabetes etc... 2. Are you on any medications that may cause these effects? 3. If no to both and you are still wondering it could be what some call Shadow forms or Shadow men.. These are dark shadowforms that seem to be seen out of the corner of one's eye. I have seen these form all the time and when I least expect them too.. They come in actual various sizes too.. Some are small some are large etc..
Sometimes we see an entity in the periphery of our field of vision. In the duality of our reality, these entities can be positive or negative. They may look like a spark of light, (a soul spark and our true essence,) most often viewed as white light moving between grid realities. On occasion one sees a dark form, or forms, referred to as Shadow People. This is about consciousness momentarily moving between the grids that create our reality. There are many grid experiences simultaneously interacting with our own. Sometimes we get a glimpse into another, if only for a nanosecond. Some people are more aware, while others just move on. Shadow people (also known as Shadow men, shadow folk, or shadow beings) are said to be shadow like creatures of supernatural origin that appear as dark forms in the peripheries of people's vision and disintegrate, or move between walls, when noticed. Reports of shadow people are similar to ghost sightings, but differ in that shadow people are not reported as having human features, wearing modern/period clothing, or attempting to communicate. Witnesses also do not report the same feelings of being in the presence of something that 'was once human'. Some individuals have described being menaced, chased, or (more rarely) attacked by shadow people. There have also been reports of shadow people appearing in front of witnesses or lingering for several seconds before disappearing. Witnesses report that encounters are typically accompanied by a feeling of dread. Most accounts of shadow people describe them as black humanoid silhouettes with no discernible mouths, noses, eyes, or any expression whatsoever, though purported witnesses have also described child-sized humanoids or shapeless masses. Some reports also include glowing red eyes. Generally, they are described as lacking mass, though their specific nature varies from a two-dimensional shadow to a vaporous or distorted three-dimensional form. Their movement is often described as being very quick and disjointed; they may first move slowly, as if they were passing through a heavy liquid, and then rapidly "hop" to another part of a witness' surroundings. Some witnesses describe this movement as though the shadow entities they have seen "danced" from one wall to the next, or as moving around the room "as if they were on a specific track". Some accounts differ from the above and instead describe a completely black creature with red eyes, a cloak, and a gentleman's hat. This variation has become known as "the hat man". Various depictions and artists rendering have been posted on the internet. Hypotheses Several explanations have been proposed to explain the phenomona of shadow people. Paranormal Explanations for shadow people have been drawn from the fields of parapsychology, metaphysics, cryptozoology, demonology, religion, and the occult: A creature/s in an alternate reality whose dimension occasionally overlaps with ours, allowing it to be partially visible. A Manifest Thoughtform (egregore), ghost or demon created by negative psychic energy and related to a places or event in which extreme emotional or physical stress/trauma has taken place. A creature in some way linked to Grey and Reptilian aliens An unattended shadow or shade (mythology), said in some cultures, to be similar to that of a ghost, a flicker of a life unable to end for some reason. Scientific Several non-paranormal hypothesis for the phenomena of shadow people exist, including optical illusions or hallucinations brought on by the physiological/psychological circumstances of the witnesses. Pareidolia In most instances, witnesses report seeing shadow people in the peripheral areas of their vision. This areas of vision is linked to the areas of the brain that recognizes patterns, however it provides less detail to the brain than macular (center-forward) vision. This can lead to a condition know as pareidolia, in which the brain incorrectly interprets random patterns of light/shadow or texture as being familiar patterns such as faces and human forms. The same condition can also be observed in macular vision in low light conditions, or when viewing a complex but random image. A common example would be perceiving a shadow, thrown by an item of furniture in a darkened room, as being a person. Hypnogogia Also known as waking-sleep, hypnogogia is a documented physiological condition in which a person is part-way between sleeping and waking. During hypnogogia, a person can be conscious and aware of their environment, but also in a dream-like state where they can perceive images from their subconscious. People experiencing waking-sleep commonly report the sensation of lights or shadows moving around them, as well as other visual hallucinations. A feeling of dread is also a sensation that occurs when experiencing hypnogogia. Hypnogogia is sometimes known as 'the faces in the dark phenomenon' because sufferers commonly report seeing faces while experiencing waking-sleep. Similar hypothesis have been put forward linking this condition to a number of other apparent paranormal experiences, including alien abductions and paranormal nocturnal visitations. Chemical Agents The use of narcotics and psychotropic agents, including methamphetamine and LSD, can produce shadow person-like hallucinations. Dopaminergic drugs such as pramipexole can sometimes cause these hallucinations. Common over-the-counter medication can also have a similar effect if taken in sufficient quantity Electromagnetic Fields Under the right conditions, electromagnetic fields can interfere with the functions of the temporal lobe; creating altered states of perception in which auditory and visual hallucinations can occur. Using electromagnetic fields, researches have been able to recreate many of the experiences reported during paranormal encounters under laboratory conditions, including those of shadow people. Researchers have also documented correlations between variances in naturally-occurring magnetic fields and areas where paranormal events have been reported. Neurological conditions Certain neurological conditions, such as photosensitive complex partial seizures, have also been shown to cause sufferers to see shadow people. Shadow People
Shadow people phenomena Unexplained Mysteries - June 15, 2007 - by Shaan Russell As long as there have been hauntings and ghostly phenomena, there have been sightings of ŒShadow People¹. These Shadow People are defined by their featureless, shadow-like appearance and the feeling of foreboding when they are present. They are nearly always a manly shape, large and with a broad silhouette and perhaps the strangest thing about them, is that they are usually seen wearing a hat of some sort. In some instances there are red eyes that seem to pierce right through you. So are they Œnormal ghosts¹? Most people will say that they are not. They don¹t usually seem to have purpose to their visits and from the bad feelings they emit, it seems that they aren¹t benign by any means. One important observation about shadow people, that isn¹t often seen with Œconventional ghosts¹ is that they seem to be aware of our presence. A lot of the time manifestations occur involving an entity that seems to be going about daily business, rarely do they notice or try and communicate with people. The Shadow People tend to be very aware of our presence and in fact seem like they wish to make us feel uncomfortable or frightened. Are they evil? It is tempting to say that they are, especially given the bad vibes they seem to let off. However, there is not much documentation to say that a bad occurrence usually follows a Shadow Man visitation. If fact, most visitations usually result in the apparition fading away, or disappearing when noticed. They never seem to talk or approach the witness, instead standing menacingly in doorways and corners. Some people say that Shadow People are aliens or time traveling beings. This is an interesting theory, as it suggests that not only do these entities exist, but they are frequently visitors in our lives. Why do they hang around us so much? Are we being studied? Could this be why there are so many reports of Œfeelings of evil¹ coming from these creatures? What makes the Shadow People phenomena interesting, in the world of the supernatural, is the consistency in the sightings. No matter whether it¹s an old person or a child, or anyone in between, what they see is always the same. People on opposite ends of the world report seeing these entities on a daily basis and their recollections are strikingly similar. Whatever these Shadow People are they are definitely a regular occurrence in a lot of people¹s lives. from here.. http://crystalinks.com/shadowpeople.html |
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Welcome, Katiebunny!
MysticMerlin--I happen to be a diabetic and my eyes were the third system the disease attacked. So if I see something black in my peripheral vision, the first thing I worry about is a detached retina. However, I've noticed a lot of tales of these shadow people lately and this "evil" vibe they put off; and I begin to wonder has anyone considered elementals?! It's been many years since I've studied paranormal literature, but back then not many folks were seeing shadow figures. The actions I've seen described are very close to the actions of elementals. Elementals are protective spirits of the land, water, and air. I imagine mother earth is getting a bit annoyed with self-absorbed humans who are so slow to learn; she may be sending more messengers our to put the fear of consequences into our thick skulls. |
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I dont have diabetes but I am bipolar so maybe i'm just hearing voices??????
The ghost/spirit I saw was a young man in his 20's who was tall and thin and he was wearing a blue printed shirt. It was very startling but my parents see stuff also so maybe its inherited. I dont know. I appreciate all your help. Thank you Katie |
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I see things and hear things alot. I have one in the house that's a child that calls me mommy all the time. Even though I have a child this one calls me
when she's not around. So your not going nuts. Although I have not seen this child with my eyes I do know it's there because it happens alot. I've
also have had a shadow of man pass by me twice in the dark. I can feel him and sense him but I can't see him.
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Hi Katiebunny! Welcome to the Shadowlands! You are not crazy!! It just feels like you are when it first starts picking up. lol Like did I just see that?? I get this a lot. You are not alone and
there are lots of us here that it happens to. Last night there was knocking on the door and no one was there. Heard talking too...no one was awake cause I
checked. I used to see the shadowman watching me while I was watching TV. He really creeped me out. If it gets bothersome, do a cleansing. It helps.
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I have always seen images of what seem to be people that last well under a second on occassion. It can be quite confusing to think someone is their, when
nobody is actually present in the area. Of course, I am sure that is nothing compared to some folks's daily experiences.
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Well, I don't 'see' so much as I hear people.
BTW..I'm manic depressive...but I don't think it has anything to do with what's going on with me...except when the Empath part of me steps in..Then I get all the emotions of everyone around me...ugh Do some research on the info Merlyn posted...You probably possess a few of these 'gifts' that you are just not fully aware of yet. I know for me personally, I supressed ALL of my 'gifts' at a young age...long story...and I have just recently re-discovered them in the last 4 or so years. If you need to ask ANYTHING...just ask away...we'll be MORE than happy to try to answer them! |
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Thank you for your help, Maybe I DO have some gifts and I don't know it. I just blame everything on the bi polar and take pills and it goes away for awhile
till it comes back again.
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debspurpledragon |
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AWW big hugs
Don't run away from it. Take it for what it is. You must be gifted and are just beginning to see this. If you have ruled out everything Merlyn has suggested, then it's real and NOT in your head OH how I used to think that!! It would seriously drive me crazy! Now I know it IS someone talking to me...lol |
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Katiebunny2281,
Hey it does help to know a personal history.. I am a diabetic type 2 myself and I just been diagnosed since last April 2007.. Thanks for being so honest about your personal medical aspects.. My sister is bipolar but she is also like me to some degree she channels a 16th centry monk for her art work.. We share many intuitive aspects too.. Medical information is key and it may be that you are hearing these voices or they could be an auditory hallucination caused from after effects of the medication you take..It may be not that it is the only answer.. I do want you to read the information I listed and at the same time, I want you to start keeping a diary of your dreams and or personal thoughts about this situatio.. It will help to get you to focus on what is you are wondering about.. and what you can do too?? How long has this been happening and have you talked to your doctor about this aspect too?? I am asking for I am in the process of seeking professional help from a psychologist on some personal issues and depression... And I know that I am on medication called Prozak and I just doubled my dosage and my medication is messing with me and this can be trying and dangerous too for any medical changes need to be reviewed and that is why I am seeking professional help. I want to check and see if my family has other aspects of mental illness.. My sister is bipolar due to a medical condition of Cushings, Fibro and other personal information... She was had 2 brain surgeries and has had multiply of medications and major life changing events too.. I just discovered that my mom's mom or my grandmother commited suicide and it was never determed what was wrong with her for my mom had told us lies about her for years until it came out about my sister and than other family members who are very depressed.. So it may be the pills but it has to be seen if the pills affect auditory or visual effects.. The detached retina is another medical aspect too but with this from what I read about it the person may see floates more so and all the time..?? here is what I found about detached retina..
Detached Retina (or Retinal Detachment) Definition | Symptoms | Treatment | Clinic Information Definition A retinal detachment occurs when the retina is pulled away from its normal position in the back of the eye. The retina sends visual images to the brain through the optic nerve. When detachment occurs, vision is blurred. A detached retina is a very serious problem that almost always causes blindness unless it is treated. The retina normally lies smoothly and firmly against the inside back wall of the eyeball and functions much like the film in the back of a camera. Millions of light-sensitive retinal cells receive optical images, instantly "develop" them, and send them on to the brain to be seen. If any part of the retina is lifted or pulled from its normal position, it is considered detached and will cause some vision loss. The vitreous is the clear collagen gel that fills the back of the eye between the retina and the lens. As we get older the vitreous may pull away from its attachment to the retina at the back of the eye. Usually the vitreous separates from the retina without causing a problem. But sometimes the vitreous pulls hard enough to tear the retina in one or more places. Fluid may pass through the retinal tear and lift the retina off the back of the eye like wallpaper can peel off a wall. Retinal detachment can occur at any age, but it is more common in midlife and later. Conditions that can increase the chance of a retinal detachment include nearsightedness; previous cataract surgery; glaucoma; severe trauma; previous retinal detachment in your other eye; family history of retinal detachment; or weak areas in your retina that can be seen by your ophthalmologist. Symptoms Floaters Gray curtain or veil moving across your field of vision The symptoms described above may not necessarily mean that you have a detached retina. However, if you experience one or more of these symptoms, contact your eye doctor for a complete exam. Treatment Retinal tears will usually need to be treated with laser surgery or cryotherapy (freezing), to seal the retina to the back wall of the eye again. These treatments cause little or no discomfort and may be performed in your ophthalmologist's office. This treatment will usually prevent progression to a retinal detachment. Occasionally retinal tears are watched without treatment. Retinal detachments may require surgery to return the retina to its proper position in the back of the eye. There are several ways to fix a detached retina. The decision of which type of surgery and anesthesia (local or general) to use depends upon the characteristics of the retinal detachment. In each of the following methods, your ophthalmologist will locate any retinal tears and use laser surgery or cryotherapy (freezing) around them to seal the tear. Pneumatic retinopexy describes the injection of a gas bubble into the vitreous space inside the eye enabling the gas bubble to push the retinal tear back against the wall of the eye and close the tear. Laser or cryo-surgery is used to secure the retina to the eye wall around the retinal tear. Your ophthalmologist will ask you to maintain a certain head position for several days. The gas bubble will gradually disappear. Sometimes this procedure can be done in the ophthalmologist's office. A scleral buckle or flexible band is placed around the equator of the eye to counterbalance any force pulling the retina out of place. Often the ophthalmologist will drain the fluid from under the detached retina allowing the retina to return back to its normal position against the back wall of the eye. This procedure is performed in the operating room, usually on an outpatient basis. Vitrectomy may be necessary to remove any vitreous gel which is pulling on the retina. This may also be necessary if the vitreous is to be replaced with a gas bubble. Your body's own fluids will gradually replace this gas bubble, but the vitreous gel does not return. Sometimes a vitrectomy may be combined with a scleral buckle. After Surgery You can expect some discomfort after retinal surgery. Your ophthalmologist will prescribe any necessary medications for you and advise you when to resume normal activity. You will need to wear an eye patch for a short time. If a gas bubble was placed in the eye, your ophthalmologist may recommend that you keep your head in special positions for a time. A change of glasses may be necessary after the retina has been reattached. What Are The Risks Of Surgery? Any surgery has risks; however, an untreated retinal detachment will usually result in permanent severe vision loss or blindness. Some of these surgical risks include infection; bleeding; high pressure inside the eye; or cataract. Most retinal detachment surgery is successful, although a second operation is sometimes needed. If the retina cannot be reattached, the eye will continue to lose sight and ultimately become blind. Will Your Vision Improve? Vision may take many months to improve and in some cases may never fully return. Unfortunately, some patients, particularly those with chronic retinal detachment, do not recover any vision. The more severe the detachment, and the longer it has been present, the less vision may be expected to return. For this reason, it is very important to see your ophthalmologist at the first sign of trouble. The retina specialists at the Kellogg Eye Center have particular expertise in the treatment of retinal detachments. Our surgeons have extensive experience in the surgical repair of primary and complex retinal detachments, including those caused by diabetes, ocular inflammation, infection and developmental abnormalities. from here.. http://www.kellogg.umich.edu/patientcare/conditions/detached.retina.html |
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Thank you for all your help.
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mysticmerlyn1212 |
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Katiebunny2281
I am glad that I could help.. |
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Last night I saw the "Hat Man" Shadow Person, he was tall and black but without the red eyes. Anyone else ever see him?
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Hello!! I am new here.. I am reading a whole alot of stuff on here( wow, i am impressed)!! There is some questions i would like to ask you guys? One: Do you
guys see dark shadow people? Two: Do you ever hear your name being called like from a distance? Three: I can hear people all the time talkign to my mind and
they are saying " Please we need help?" Four: Every time i get angry , something like the lights to flash real bad( does this happen to anyone here?)
Okay sorry for so many questions. Thanks
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Hi All,
I'd like to jump in on the retina info. I have had the "Fold and Buckle" technique. It's been over 20 years and I have been very lucky; though, I did have a second surgery with in a month of the first. Vitamin "C" helps reduce the number of floaters I see, as it helps tissue 'stick' together. I take between 1/2 and a gram / day. Now, I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on TV. I do believe this has helped me keep my sight thus far. Best, Rob |
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Welcome to Shadowlands
I can say that i have SOME of the same things happening to me. I'll be back tomorrow to address them, as I have no time tonight |
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Katiebunny2281..
Yes I have seen this type of spiritual form and there is sometimes a smell or sense when seeing these type of forms from what I recall seeing them in the past at a 100 plus year old bar I ran back in the late 1980's with a history of the Underground Railroad.. These shadow forms change and will change at random.. Some people have personal ideas who these forms are and why they appear.. It seems to differ from one person to another..
Welcome to Shadowlands Jalayne...
1. Yes, I have seen the following being a psychic/empathic Medium.. Since a child have been visited by deceased family and friends in dreams and on this earthly plane. Have seen full apparitions, manifestations,orbs,and can sense cold and warm spots! I have seen the spiritual forms as shadow people with and and with out top hats.. I act as a medium by various means such as: tarot, automatic writing, ouija, seances, pendulum, runes, cold readings, scrying with black mirror! 2. Yes, I have heard my name being called and this may be from a physical sense associated with physical hearing the astral whispers to hearing the astral whispers telepathically and or intuitively.. A clairaudio is intuitively hearing that which is not audio. Some say these voices are angels, other say spirit guides, some say departed loved one, and yet some even say as it has happened to me and my wife, we both heard our names being called at the same time during our dreams and when we went to sleep... With my wife and myself, I thought she was calling me and she thought I was calling her!! 3. It sounds like you may first rule out any possible medical problem before you assume it is paranormal.. I say this to everyone for I like to look at the rational before the paranormal. When you say you hear voices are these voices coming to you via your actual hearing with ears? Or are these voices coming to you in a different frequency and the static seems like they are talking from a radio receiver? Are these voices maybe internal and heard from with in your being and centered around your third eye or crown chakra, in other words in your physical world? Are these voices coming to you and telling you things to do or are the voices acting like a party and multiple voices and hard to understand? Are they from within your being as like you hear it from your inner being or what some call a soul or inner spirit? 4. Depending on what is happening around you when the lights flicker, one should always look first at the electrical outlest or light and its bulb? Is the light loose or faulty? Overhead lights or lamp lights? You said every time.. so you electric bill and light bulbs are always blowing up?? It may be a type of telekenisis or energy manipulation but I would have to see and be there to get the energy at the time of these occurances.. I know that I have in the past, have blown up steet lamps while driving under them and not just one or two but several in a row when I was really stressing and upset about my family and or sicknesses of parents.. Depending on the actual events and who was there to help you see what happened? Some times it just may be a bad light bulb and poof it is gone or dead!! I have problems with some other electrical appliances too and other types of these devices.. It is surprising.. It is always me doing the extra poof or lights flashing?? Sometimes it is me, other times it is just a bad electrical connection..
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Yes every time i get angry , the lights starts to flicker alot and No it is not a bad connection either. No my light bulbs to not blow up. But i remember one
time at my job , i was in deep thought and it made me feel upset and then the whole plant shut down.. The lights went back up in 2 mins. weird.. Also the
voices that come to myy mind often are nice and bad.. They just call me everyday and sometimesi have to ignore them or put up a mental block!! These voices are
angels, demons, children, and most of all lost souls .. I can even hear animals thoughts out loud.. They talk to me and i can talk to them.. That is all i can
think of for now...
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