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Here's my situation, I have a lot of little incidents I want to share and i'd like to know what you think... My wife and I have lived in our apartment
for about a year and a half. She use to work 3rd shift as a 911 dispatcher (now 1st shift) at the time we moved in. So I was here alone most evenings. About a
week or two after settling in, I was watching TV and noticed out of the corner of my eye what appeared to be a shadow move in our kitchen. When I turned and
looked there was nothing there. So I thought it was a floater in my eye or eye strain or something. This happened a few times over the next few months. Then
one day my wife had left to go to the store, I was sitting in the bathroom, lets say...reading, with the door closed. All of the sudden I hear someone walk
past the bathroom door and open the guest bedroom door. I shout out "hello"? Stephanie? with no reply. I hurry off the commode thinking someone is in
the apartment. When I get out in the hall the bedroom door I thought someone had opened is still closed. Nobody's in there. The doors were all still
locked. I thought... wtf? Up til this point it's all me. I told Steph about the bathroom experience but not about the shadows. So one night she had off,
we were watching a movie on TV. From our couch you have a good shot at our bathroom wall when the door is open. That night it was open and it has the standard
apartment white walls. Anyhow I saw a shadow come from the bathroom and head into our bedroom, again out of the corner of my eye. So I turn my head in the
direction of the bathroom. That's when I noticed my wife doing the same head turn. She looked bewildered. So I said did you see it too. And she had! So at
this point i'm just glad it's not just me see things. Another time, I fell a sleep on the couch watching tv. I felt a hard bump or a kick to the couch.
I started to wake up, all be it slowly, when I felt another jolt or kick to the couch, I was almost totally awake when I felt a third jolt. I opened my eyes
thinking my wife was trying to wake me but she was not standing there. Then I thought it might be our little mini dachshund who will throw herself on the couch
in an attempt to get up on it. But she was sound a sleep it her bed. I asked my wife about it but she said she was in our bedroom on the computer for the past
2 hours and did not try to wake me up. Besides she couldn't have made it out of my sight between the last jolt and when I opened my eyes. I would have seen
her. About that time, I jokingly started to call our "ghost" Fred. There have been a couple of scares too. One night we went to bed and Steph had
fallen asleep quickly. I was just going under when I heard a noise that woke me. I layed there listening. I then heard the back door open and footsteps in the
kitchen. They sounded like work boots to me. I jumped up(waking Stephanie up) and ran into the kitchen KNOWING someone was in there. Steph was scared and
started to go for the phone to call 911. Of course when I entered the kitchen the back door was still locked and no one was in there but me. Took me an hour to
get back to sleep. The other night I went to let my dog out before going to bed. It was about midnight. I unlocked the door, went to open it and felt the door
pull away from me about a half inch.(stronger then the pressure in the house would do) I immediatly pulled the door back and then with me turning the handle
clockwise felt the handle start to turn counter clockwise. I paniced! I desperatly tried to lock the dead bolt but I was pulling to hard for the bold to slide
into place. So with my left hand I slid the blinds apart to see who was trying to get in.(The back door has a window in it) Again nobody there. It scared the
life out of me! One time Stephanie said she was drifting of to sleep in our bedroom while I was out on the couch watching tv. She felt the mattress give way
behind her and she thought it was me climbing into bed. She turned to say something to me and nobody was there. She told me about it the next morning. I am a
little more freaked out about it than she is. She seems to let it slide, like "geez that was weird... so whats for supper?" kind of thing. Where
I'll obsess on it and try to explain it away in my head. WOW! This is too long folks, sorry. This last thing: ...I told her the other week that most of
this stuff happeneds to me and jokingly said that FRED needed to let HER know that he was still around. I also told her of a show on ghosts that I had watched
where a husband sees his sleeping wifes hair being braided but there was no one there. A few days later we wake up, she goes into the bathroom and I head to
the kitchen to make coffee. She calls me into the bathroom to see her hair. One lock of it had been twisted into a curl. My wife has heavy, straight hair. So
it takes a lot to get it to curl. I took it and twisted it back, it took 5 twists until I couldn't twist it any more. It had to be twisted tight for it to
hold that curl. just one perfect lock. Anyway that weekend, she's off work again and she calls her mom.(her mom has a lot of health problems) She calls,
someone picks up but doesn't say anything. I hear Steph saying Hello...Hello... Mom? ...then I see her eyes widen. She said Mom is that you?...Mom? She
looks at me and said I heard someone say Hel... like hello but they couldn't get it out. I said does it sound like her and she says not really. It was an
airy,husky sounding voice. I said hang up and try again. She did, and again someone picks up but no one said anything. Mom...? ....mom? So I take the phone and
say hello? I heard movement but nobody says anything. So we get in the car and go over, (she lives 5 minute away) and Stephs brother and his wife are the only
ones there. When she asked him about it, he said the phone rang, he answered it and nobody said anything so he hung up. Both times. Steph heard movement for
about a good minute the first time we called. The "Voice" was about 30 seconds into the first call. He said he just answered hello and hung up when
he didn't get a response. When we got there he had the tv on and loud, but we didn't hear any background noise when we called. My wife thought it might
be Fred. And blamed me! (Ghosts have been known to work through electronics sometimes, from what i've heard). So she said to quit asking him to show her
he's still around. Lol. To be honest, I never believed in ghosts until this stuff started. This is most of it but not all of the things we experience.
Mostly bumps and little noises like the sound of a door handle jiggle, and stuff I can explain away as "house settling" sounds. I dunno,
something's not right but I'm still not sure what I truely believe. What do you think? Could it be a ghost?
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Hmm, it doesn't sound threatening from what you have described, however, as I always say, if more than one person sees or experience the same thing it more
than validates your claim. Try and set up a video recorder during the times you feel it's most active. Place a voice recorder as well and let it run. If
you are determined to find out what it is, you would need to be a detective yourself and get property history IE: deaths, etc. This can be done from the local
library, Historical society and even the County recorders office. Several other questions could be asked, such as: Have either your wife or you had any recent
deaths in the family? Any one besides you two experience these occurences or past tennants? Get as much information as you can to narrow down the activity.
Again, I doubt anything is there to cause harm, it sounds more playful then anything else. If it really bothers you, a blessing or cleansing of the home would
be in order.
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Well you had me thinking it was just residual UNTIL it started interacting..somewhat...with your wife.
Sounds like a house cleansing is in order!! I'll post the How-to in Haunted Help Forum so it will be accessable for everyone! |
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Yeah, you're right, we really don't feel threatened by it at all. Just a little creeped out sometimes. Like I said, it's taking me some getting use
to because I really never believed in ghosts or hauntings before this. Though it's been going on over a year and a half, i'm still a little shocked by
it. (Even though I joke about it with my wife). When something happens I still go into my "rationalize mode". Because it seems to be playful I
don't feel a need to try to remove it, as long as it stays that way. I think I will definately take your advice and investigate it further. Check records,
video tape the place and so forth. I am really curious at this point. I have thought about asking my landlord if he's ever had any complaints about similar
things happening but how do I go about asking that without him thinking I've lost my mind... He's a great guy but... and the same with our neighbors. I
guess thats assuming he hasn't had any complaints ....but if he has....hmmm. I may have to take that chance. I'll see what the wife thinks. Either way,
I will look into it deeper. Thanks for the advice! -Tom
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MrMartinee |
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I though i'd post an update on our situation in case you were interested. I tried using our camcorder while we slept but our night vision sucks on this
thing so it hasn't panned out yet. I did get a digital voice recorder and had good results with it. My wife and I turn everything off on wed. night and sat
in the livingroom. We hit the recorder and started asking questions. I really wasn't expecting to get anything, just hoping. We only did it for about
20mins. When we listen to the play back on the computer we were shocked. I ask, Is there more then one of you here? and we heard "There are two". I
here "yes there are two of us here". My wife only hears There are two. It is a womans voice we think. It's very low, starts out as a whisper then
to a voice just above a whisper and ends with a whisper. I ask, Do you like dogs? (We had a few things happen with our dog we though he/she had something to do
with) and there is a definate "yes" in a female voice, all be it weak. the other three questions that were answer were in whispers, very faint. I had
to crank the volume up to understand the answers. We had to listen to it a few times to understand her but they're there. I'm going to post them ,if I
can figure out how, in the next week or twoalong with anything else we might get between now and then. We are going to the county records office next week
when we both have the day off, to see what we can dig up about any deaths at the apt,. or surrounding property. Fatal car wrecks and such. We were thinking
about getting a K2 meter after watching an episode of Ghost Hunters. Try to communicate with them. Anyhow, thanks for the advice, if you think of anything else
we could do please let me know.
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debspurpledragon |
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Wow! How awesome and yet kind of spooky was that??
I'm not sure how you post audios here....but maybe someone else can help you there. I'd really like to hear it!! Let us know if you get anything else |
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MrMartinee,
Very interesting events taking place.. as I was reading, I was actually sensing a male spiritual form and a female one too.. The male form was because it wanted to lay down with your wife and the indentation aspect on the bed.. With your shadow forms you saw it was happening in the same location and do the same thing over and over? I am sensing that you may have a residuel haunting of a woman and the man may be the one walking around with the boots?? Your dog reacting is very a good indicator if there are spiritual forms around you and your home.. Do keep some type of log or journal of the events as you listed here in this thread. It will help to establish a time line when the events occur and will help with setting up the aspect of a residuel haunting.. Both seeing the shadow forms is not an accident both of you are to see them!! I am getting an image of a possible murder/suicide in the apartment? The male form is what makes me uneasy but the woman is helpful and present to you both!! When you jerk up or awake suddenly you may have been dreaming or even astral traveling and the jolt was you going back into your body!! Just a thought.. Have you ever had any dreams or recurring dreams in this home either of you? Thanks for sharing and looking to listen to your EVP?? |
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Thanks for responding mysticmerlyn1212. The shadows I saw were in the kitchen. The shadow my wife and I saw came from the bathroom and seemed to head
into our bedroom thats right across the hall. I'm not sure if it's residual because the female voice answers my questions directly. There are two
"kinds" of voices on the recorder. One anwsers in whispers and the other is a womans voice. (all be it very low in volume) It may be the same
"person" I don't know. The whisper voice seems to be female as well, but it's hard to tell. My wife and I both thought it was a male
presence before hearing the female evps. The other presence could be the male we were both sensing.
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It was a little creepy but really more of a shock. We already new someone or something was living with us... but to hear her/them with your own ears? I
couldn't believe it! It got the heart pumping for sure. But because it sounded gentle and female I think that eased the experience somewhat. If it had been
grough or evil sounding we might have stayed in a motel that night.Lol. Thank you for posting on this. I am trying to figure out how to post the evps and as
soon as I do I'll put them up for you to hear. I will keep it up to date if we get more evps or something else happens. It's been pretty quiet lately,
as far as strange things happening around the apartment. We are going to attemp to talk to "her" this wednesday night. Most (but not all) of the
things happen at night for some reason, so thats when we thought it would be the best time to try to record something. It worked last week so maybe it will
again this time.
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Sounds like you have a ghost! (Pun completely intended...sorry!)
Once you have loaded your files into the computer, you can store them at www.putfile.com and post the links to them here. Can't wait to hear them! Best wishes, Suzanne |
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OH!! Thank you for that info!!
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MrMartinee |
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Heres my first attempt to download the evp files. The answers are really very faint so you will have to turn the volume up to hear them. If you have headphones
you'll probably here them better if you use them. I'm posting three evps. The second one I recorded just doing a sound test in the kitchen. I was
saying off the wall things just to get my voice samples and when I played it back there was something on it. It's a little funny actually, I imagine she
was saying wtf to herself, not knowing what I was doing. The third one, turn your speaks/headphones up high right after I speak. Anyway, here it goes. Let me
know what you think?
http://media.putfile.com/EVP3-Do-you-like-dogs http://media.putfile.com/1-EVP-during-a-sound-test http://media.putfile.com/EVP2-Is-there-more-then-one-of-you
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Thank you so much Tom, for sharing your experience and your EVP's. !!!
I kept checking back until you posted them and I took a listen...here's what I hear: (You) Do you like dogs? Answering voice: female adult - Yes. (You) Is there more than one of you here? Answer is hard to make out on this one. It might be beneficial to try and eliminate some of the white noise. But I believe you when you say you heard "There are 2", because I can make out a voice, I just can't discern what it is saying. (You) Eeny meenie, miney, mo... Answer: female adult saying "What?" I am fascinated with EVP's and I want to thank you for sharing yours. I hope you can capture more in the days and weeks to come, while you are investigating. I have a question for you: Do you feel as though you will want to move or are you feeling comfortable with the situation? Also, do you feel that you want to help these spirits in some way? Or???? I am really looking forward to your responses. There are some folks on this board who believe that they can "read" the situation psychically, but I want to know how YOU feel about it, and what your intuition tells you. (Or your lovely lady). The two of you are the real "experts" in this situation because it's happening to you, not to anyone else, and none of us are there - we can only "live it" vicariously through you and what you choose to share with us. I find your story fascinating, and one of the most believable that I have read on any of these types of boards. Please stay in touch and let us know how it is all going, what the latest is, and what you eventually conclude. If you are interested, I am going to share part of my experience in my own thread on this board ---I'd be interested to hear your feedback. Very best to you and your lady love, Suzanne |
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Thank you Suzanne for replying and again for your help! I had trouble with the second one as well. I listen to it over and over the first day. I asked my
wife to listen and we both said the same thing you did. We could tell there was a voice saying something but could not make it out. I waited a day and then
listen to the whole session again and when it came to that question the answer seemed to jump out at me. I heard "there are two of us". "of
us" is barely a whisper. My wife can make out "there are two". The whole answer is somewhere between a whisper and a voice. It IS hard to hear.
lol. I emailed my sister the links and she heard what you heard with the first and last evps but didn't hear anything on the second.
When I play them through a mp3 file I barely hear any reply at all on any of them. When played through the Olympus Digital Wave Player its better but there is still alot of static. I downloaded a trial version of Sony Sound Forge Audio Studio 9.0 and have been working with some of their tools to try to clean it up and bring out the evps more. But I don't know what i'm doing and it's a bit hit and miss. But i'm working on it. As far as to what is going on...to be honest we really don't have a clue yet. We were going to go to the county records office this week and see if we can find some information on this property. But a family matter has come up and we'll have to wait a week or two before we can get down there. I would also like to look up any old news reports on this address, any fatal accidents on the street out front, murders, suicides anything we can dig up. The only thing I can say is I don't believe these are evil spirits in any way. Intution?....maybe or maybe it's just that they really haven't been mean or harmful to us. I actually don't mind them being here. It's facinating to me. Two years ago I did not believe in ghosts or hauntings. After our encounters in the apartment I began to believe.(Ghost Hunters is my favorite show now! lol.) The EVPs really put a lock on it for me. Even after experiencing things for over a year and a half, a part of me didn't expect to find anything on the recorder. Now i Believe 110%. The evps are not good quality but there is no doubt to us we did get voices on the recorder. And it helps that they were somewhat pleasant voices at least for our own comfort... (or the short answer...lol...Yes, we are comfortable with them.) If there is ever a time when we think we could help them, we would love to do that. Who knows, maybe one day we will get the opportuity. This is getting loooong. So I'll cut out here. I'll keep posting anything that comes up. Thank you Suzanne for your interest and support in this. I hope you do put up some of your own experiences, I am really looking forward to reading them! Take care, Tom |
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Great to hear back from you Tom!
Sounds like you are doing all the right things in your investigation and your approach. I like it that you are open to helping them if they need it. Too many people try to "hang onto them" out of a morbid fascination and ignore the actual needs of some spirits. (Some need help with forgiveness, and all sorts of stuff.) I too am "digitally challenged" so I understand your frustration with the equipment. Regarding the software for the evp's: You might try WavePad. It might even already be on your computer (sometimes its included in the shovel ware when you buy a computer). It's pretty easy to use and its a free download. Everyone recommends Audacity , also a free program, but that one is just too complicated for me...maybe you'll have better luck with it. As of right now, I'm only just getting started with evp work so I don't' have any to share with you. But a comprehensive google search should give you access to lots of samples so that you can "train" your ears. I've found that helpful. God bless and keep us posted! Best wishes, Suzanne |
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Very good job, even though the quality has lost some being over the net, the last two are clear and dead on. That's the problem with evp's and loading
them on the web. Even Ghost Hunters runs into similar problems playing back and then the shows audio trying to keep the quality the same. Usually happens as
you're taking an already weak audio, uploading it to a traffic filled medium and then listening to it almost from a second and third source. But Nice job
and quality on these. To have direct answers to your questions is called, "An Intelligent Haunt." These don't suggest anything negative but more
in trying to get your attention and now that they have, you will most likely continue to have contact.
Evp's for some are hard to take. Just thinking that these are from the departed can send some over the edge. Not easy to stomach. But, most are really harmless and just interacting with you. |
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Thanks Tom and Susan for all the work and the EVPS too..
I heard as Susan heard and what you heard too Tom.. The faint spirit whispers are what I hear at times and can be at times telepathic or to your brain or internal being or soul. These sounds are usually higher frequency and hard for humans to hear except animals like dogs and cats may often hear these higher frequency whispers.. Thanks again for sharing and I do hope that you do get some type of confirmation as to whom these voices belong too!! Many times, when I read personal threads or posts from members here and on other boards I am on, I get intuitive flashes which can be audio, images, smells, and on some occasions even physical energy too.. In listening and reading about what you have experienced I try to first analize the obvious or possible physical or non paranormal events. It is only after I am able to gain further information and or astral energy from a person's personal energy when they post. I know it sounds strange but I am able for whatever reason to sense, feel, see, hear and smell and taste the unknown from others on the net.. I am able to remote view many of these situations at will and I think that may be why I state as I do to others but what I am looking for at times is just confirmation as to what I am sensing is accurate. I know that I am not perfect and that you and your wife are the ones that are experiences these events.. I am an observer but I am able to be there astrally to connect with your feelings.. So when I state something it is what I am sensing at that time. I do not like to 'go fishing' for answeres such as names of these beings for that is not my gift. I state as you can see some information and what I am sensing. It is just a way for whatever reason that I am able to connect this way. I have done this my entire life.. Thanks again for posting the EVPs.. I am like both of you as to recording and using EVPS.. I have never loaded any of these types of recordings. I am more inclined to work on graphic and visual means for I am more trained and able to gain the visual insights.. When you take these EVPS, how do you save them and in what formate? I am going to start a thread about how to use or understand EVP work. I am very interested and I would love to share some of what I hear with others!! |
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"When you take these EVPS, how do you save them
and in what formate?" Most are saved in either wav or mp3, these are the most popular formats. On my site I upload in the mp3 format. And are then uploaded to sites such as, photobucket etc. Then linked to where you want it to be viewed or listened to. There are some good evp editing programs out there, one is sold here at Shadowlands called, Audacity. Perfect for removing background noises, hums etc. Also many other features for listenting to your recording in crisper playbacks with noise removeal etc. |
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Thank you for listening and the replys! I was thinking the same thing about sending them over the net. I sent them to members of my family and they didn't
hear much on their computers. It may depend on the quality of their equipment as well. I'm going over to my sisters house tomorrow night just to see what
she's hearing...to get a feel for the differences between our two computers.
When I download them they are in wav. format. I bought a cheaper recorder (Olympus VN-4100PC) because I heard an evp expert say they have more luck with them, then the more expensive ones they own. Their theory was something about the static/white noise in them helps to capture the evp better than the quieter usually more expensive ones. I don't know, i'm just a newbie to the paranormal scene. I'm using the Sony Sound Forge Studio 9.0 at the moment. It's a free trial download. It is definately better than the Digital Wave Player that came with the recorder. (By the way, the DWP is the program I use to download it to my computer). So I am experimenting with that at the moment but I can't seem to get the white noise level down without bringing the evp/voice level down with it. On the Do you like dogs evp, I turned the evp part of it up so you could here the answer but the static came up with it. Is there something out there that can just eliminate the white noise but leave the "voice" volume untouched? You mentioned them trying to get our attention. That's funny because my wife and I were talking and we've noticed that the more we have acknowledged their presence over the months, the less strange things we are experiencing in the apt. Almost like when we first moved in they were trying to say HEY WE"RE HERE by us seeing shadows and hearing footsteps and doors opening. The more we've come to accept we have visitors the calmer things have been. Now we get evps. It could be they want to communicate something or maybe just want to be acknowledged. I don't know. Just something we discussed the other night. Anyway, thanks again for you input, it's much appreciated!! If you have anymore thoughts and or theories on any of this, I'd love to hear them. Take care, Tom |
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Thank you for your input and taking the time to listen to the evps. It's nice to know that others are hearing some of the same things my wife and I are
when we listen to them and it's not just us hearing them. Lol. I download the recordings using the Olympus Digital Wave Player that came with the recorder.
They are in wav. format. Then I move them to the Sony Forge Audio Studio 9.0 to try to clean them up. Try being the key here. It's a free trial download. I
know nothing about it so it's one big experiment at the moment. The files do sound better played through the SFAS 9.0 then through the Olympus player. The
Sony has more tools to work with as well. I'm going to try the Audacity program and see how that works.
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